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Poster: jampire Date: Dec 7, 2006 12:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: who now?

we all know the grateful dead was the best there can be. period. but who is next to carry the tourch? what are YOU listening to thats not the dead that gets you off? is tour over and can it ever be brought restored? who will sell out alpine valley next?

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Poster: patkelley Date: Dec 7, 2006 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

There will never ever be another Grateful Dead, nor will there be anything like it- not even close.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Dec 7, 2006 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

I hear you Patkelly.
Van Morrison sure tore it up opening for the Stones-did you ever get "into" that CD?
If Trey & Kimock joined Phil & Phriends, THAT would be massive and a sell-out. They were soooo good together on their Warfield run (with little rehearsing)
I wish I wish....
Phish's lyric's were a bit inane, but I love a good Roggae!
Btw, can anyone steer me to their best Roggae?

This post was modified by cosmicharlie on 2006-12-08 00:03:17

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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Dec 7, 2006 4:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

live phish 17 has one of my favorite roggaes

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Dec 7, 2006 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

thanks, I'll check it out! The only Roggae i heard was on the Live in Vegas DVD

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 7, 2006 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

Today i just got tix (front row center) to see Bruce Hornsby solo. Never caught him without his band. Supposedly the place he is playing holds 500 seats. Pretty psyched. I think he is very jam oriented and can carry the torch. Highly recommend catching him if he's in your town

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 7, 2006 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

Bring a pen and paper. He'll be taking requests. Keep your mind open. He always jiggers the arraingments. Should be a blast and I'm jealous again!!

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 7, 2006 9:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

have my requests ready to go.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 7, 2006 9:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!


ok - so that was just my jealousy showing through.


NO,,,,, YOU SUCK!!!!!!!


oh, never mind me - i am realy jealous. enjoy the show - that is awesome!!!! Hornby solo???? nothing like it man. have a grateful time :)

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 8, 2006 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

Plus he's giving away his new boxed set to all patrons who bought a ticket to the solo tour. man has chops

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 8, 2006 8:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

yeah, i read about that - the dude is just awesome all round and a genuine human being. wish i could have caught him when he was in my neck of the woods recently. i was bummed i couldn't.

now you just SUCK!!!! even more ;)

(my jealousy knows no bounds right now)

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 8, 2006 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

did you happen to catch him on stern a month or so ago? he held his own and seemed to enjoy. The only concern I have about the gig is that it is in malibu and I don't know what kind of crowd it will be. I saw him Bev Hills a few years ago and i got the sense that BH was annoyed with some of the folks

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 8, 2006 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

didn't catch him on stern - not a big fan of his.

hopefully the crowd will be good. Bruce can sure feed off a warm "into it" crowd!!

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Dec 7, 2006 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

I thought it would be Phish, but they are gone...Phil or Bobby can't fill arena's anymo.
I just did a SF Bay Area search for a decent jammy New Year show...Ziltch
Kimock won't be in the area either-oh well. :(

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 7, 2006 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

While I expect laughs and cries of derision, I'll tell you a band that reminds me very, very much of the Dead in terms of audience response, lack of media attention and airplay and sales (now and definitely relatively speaking):
Pearl Jam.

I saw them last tour for two nights at the Bill Graham Civic and they played very long sets, covered a lot of their own material as well as others, and had a crowd that was singing along word for word with most songs. I've seen them dozens of times since 91 and they never disappoint (I especially enjoyed the Mirror Ball tour where they were essentially Neil's Crazy Horse). They never play the same setlist from night to night, although certain songs reappear more than others (remind you of anyone?), and plenty of tapers and copies of shows available immediately.

Beieve it if you need it . . .

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Poster: JodyC Date: Dec 7, 2006 12:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

I'm seeing Gov't Mule tomorrow night for the first time. Warren has the credentials and ability (Allmans, Dead) to rally up those two camps of faithful followers. I used to spend some time over on the allman bros website and there are some very hard core, die hard loyalists in that camp that rival the Dead heads as far as loyalty goes. I know Dave Matthews is frowned upon in many peoples minds, but they put on a great show and the spirit on stage and in the crowd is pretty intense. The whole super group thing never really picks up steam (Ringo Starrs All Star Band was pretty star studded for sure and sounded great) but there will eventually be to many ego to be satisfied. Its interesting to watch the scene develop, but there doesn't seem to be anything really big picking up steam the way Phish did. Its usually a long slow build that eventually seems to just catch on fire and then can't stop til the fire goes out and poof. Jerry passes, Phish disbands, etc.

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Poster: jampire Date: Dec 7, 2006 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

i mean really...is this all thats left in our scene?

tea leaf green is said to be the best band since the dead (according to justin kreutzmann).

some may laugh but i feel sci had a little bit of the free flowing jams and the ability to get to the doorway of where the dead went but them they went all funk and techno and shit.

but really...what is new and on that level of the dead and would YOU go see it?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 7, 2006 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

I confess that I don't know what you mean by "our" scene as I think the Dead were unique and unto themselves and I've never bought into the larger "jamband" label - just another marketing tool as far as I'm concerned, unless you want to discuss bands that endlessly noodle out of and around some pretty piss poor songs to begin with (hello Widespread and Phish). Good bands come in all types of formats. I mean, a band that really opens up and lets loose is Sonic Youth - but I don't expect the patchoulied masses to check them out.

I will agree with you that when I first saw SCI on the summer sessions tour many years back (with an excellent Govt Mule set - blistering cover of Zappa's Zomby Woof) they did give me feelings that I hadn't had since some good GD shows. But not when I saw them again and they never made me want to hop in a car and drive any distance to see them.

Galactic also did same for me many years ago at Warfield with Dirty Dozen Brass Band, but they are a band that I think lost focus (and deserve to lose it after how Houseman was treated) and I'm actually more into Stanton Moore's other projects. Then again, he tends to get "all funk and techno and shit". Speaking of which, Massive Attack at the Greek was by far the most impressive act I've seen in the last few years, with Radiohead running a close second.

Of recent shows I've seen, Medeski, Martin and Wood touring with John Scofield was definitely a band that could give any other a run for their money and I'd make an effort to see that lineup again.

I saw Primus last Saturday, and they were great, but it's pretty damn predictable at this point what you're going to get with them, although Les on New Years with members of the Meters/Nevilles should be quite interesting.

Bottom line - there's a lot of great live music out there if you're open to it.

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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Dec 7, 2006 1:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

phish probably would have gotten HUGE, btw i don't see why so much people hate phish on this forum, phish was great and different, just because they had tons of "silly non-serious songs," opposite of the dead does not mean they were good, they did things their own way, and did them terrifically

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 7, 2006 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

I don't HATE Phish (got no time to hate), but they just never moved me. I never got the attraction and that's fine if others did; I was one less ticket buyer taking away someone else's fun. I know many, many people that never got the boys and weren't moved by them. As my old southern grandma used to say, "each to their own said the lady as she kissed the pig."

BTW, I do really enjoy Trey with Oysterhead.

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Poster: SinsOfTheFather Date: Dec 7, 2006 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

Bluedevil-

I am surprised you mention Massive Attack. Massive Attack, Tool, and Les are the bands that I most listen to outside of the Dead. I saw Primus in Austin last month; it was the first show of their current tour, so I they were just getting into their groove. It was a sweet show and Tim Alexander...is awesome.

Saw Massive Attack at ACL Fest and I was too high I guess, because there was so much going on onstage with lights and sounds that I was really confused. Haha, it was still a really good show.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 7, 2006 3:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

Then I suppose you know that Les plays with Tool's drummer on the last Adrian Belew release? Pretty crazy.

I just listened to Lateralus really loud last night while cleaning up some stuff; my wife and 5 year old daughter came home. My wife turned it down while my daughter flashed the horns and said "rock and roll". Then again, she always asks to hear "Jerry music" so she can dance.

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Poster: SinsOfTheFather Date: Dec 7, 2006 4:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

I confer upon you the title of Rockinest Dad Ever.

Have you heard anything by Attention Deficit? Like jazzy metal or metaly-jazz not sure which, but it's really cool stuff.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 7, 2006 4:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

No, but I will keep my ears open for it. Thanks for the tip.

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Poster: jampire Date: Dec 7, 2006 1:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

yeah...i saw a few of those summer sessions at red rocks and i agree that with you about early sci and galactic. phish is to jammy and the dead never called themseles a jam band!

is tour over. will people never again be able to walk into a 35k+ arena to see ONE band. it is a feeling i really miss.

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 8, 2006 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

gov't mule & widespread panic

warren is a sick as it gets ...he's been annointed the next one..he's our today's jerry ! :)
folks are missing the boat -heading up to the beacon on
12-30 --got to get that loser >terrapin !!!

and there's panic ..well they just keep plugging in guitarists and are determined to keep their bus a moving...great band ..panic is as close to the dead as you can get ..especially the houser years..flowmster he is/was...long live mikey !!!! :)
and they do an awesome version of cream puff war !!!!

This post was modified by Fishead on 2006-12-08 15:48:10

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Poster: jampire Date: Dec 8, 2006 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

warren is one of the next rock gods for sure. i also agree with the guy who said the 'phil & phriends' from warfield 99' w/trey, page, kimmock, molo, phil was over the top and would have been the band poised to take over the world. a year into that band would have yielded some amazing jams. as far as wsp...i am not sure. jimmy herring is also the man and i hope he can breath some life into wsp but their last tour through the north east was very poorly attended. how about tea leaf green? will they take off now because there will be no phil, no sci, ect...

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 8, 2006 9:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who now?

panic never really had a large following up north

their shows didnt sell out in the houser days..so them selling out now doesnt matter . also same with gov't mule
3 nights at the beacon including new years and tickets are still avail ...now panic is playing philips arena that's and they probably will sell that out. they are way more popular down south . i dont mind seeing them in small theaters anyway ..

i don't care much for teal leaf..too much like phish ..same with raq....people kept saying moe was gonnna be the ones but i don't see the fascination with that band or the cheese or railroad...
give me the radiators or mule or "pearl jam" ...now there's a band who's really coming into their own ..they have a following basically just like deadheads..real hardcore fans that follow them everwhere..
i know they aren't a jamband but they friggin jam and eddie vedder is a one of thee best vocalist/song writers around today along with mike mccready and stone are a great
one-2 punch on guitar...they are one great band !!!!

peace and jam on!!!